(AVOID THIS POST IF YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT GUITARS AND THE SEARCH FOR TONE…IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WORSHIP…YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED)
Well, since you asked Karl
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As some of you know, I’ve been playing through a Line 6 POD X3L since coming to HCC. When I took this job (coming from the non-instrumental church) I had literally not played my guitar for more than 20 minutes in about 6-7 years. I had sold most of my good gear after getting married (used to have a 5150 and a Marshall 1960 4×12 cab…yes it was loud, yes it rocked
So I had to start from scratch. I started looking for the right guitar(s) and needed an amp. I knew from visiting the church that stage volume was a huge issue. It’s a little room with bad acoustics (well, it’s live sounding) and everyone was turning themselves up to hear over the drums, which basically made it a bunch of noise on stage
So I read up on the POD X3 and took the plunge. No noise on stage, just straight sound to the PA, and Lincoln Brewster uses it, so it must be good. I’ve had a love/hate relationship ever since. Since arriving in June I’ve got through 4 (yes 4) units! Line 6 was having a hard time with QC and users everywhere were having them konk out on them for no reason (it’s basically a computer with foot switches) I was never happy with the POD. I could get a decent tone out of it, but it was so awkward to change settings live. And I found I didn’t really want to have 6o different amp sims…I was switching tones every song. It had that digital “fizz” that sounded well, like a sim
Plus it didn’t feel right…there was no response from the tubes. I got a Zendrive since the OD’s were nasty sounding. It really helped, but I still found I was only using the X3L on Sunday mornings. I just didn’t want to mess with it any other time. So anyway…
I traded some old gear @ GC and had a Gift Certificate plus a 10% coupon. So I got the M13. It’s still modeling, but it’s just pedals. It’s got lots of great effects and is STUPID simple to use. No crazy menus, just turn a dial and go…much better. I thought about going “old school” with just pedals…but since I’m playing lead guitar, and oh, yeah…leading worship…I didn’t want to have to step on 6 different pedals a couple times a song to get the sounds we needed. Plus that would cost a fortune to get the effects I needed. On a song like “Mighty to Save” I’d need 2 different OD’s, and 2 delays. If you through in some compression, you’re talking hundreds of dollars of pedals right there. So this is the best of both worlds…decent effects, but no crazy tap dancing. I can just set up each song as a scene, hit one button and everything is set…nice.
But I needed an amp. I knew it needed to be low wattage and I didn’t care about a loop or a dirty channel. All the OD’s will come from pedals, so I just wanted a nice clean chimey tone. I wanted a head/cab and planned to run the cab in my office to keep the volume on stage nice and low.
I made the trek to a couple places over the course of a few weeks and tried everything I could. I can’t afford the nice boutique stuff most of my “colleagues” in worship ministry play
, so I stuck with mostly mass production amps. Since my last amp purchase was to made in 1996 to emulate Van Halen (5150) I had no idea what kind of amp tone I was really looking for. All I knew is, it wasn’t a 5150
I found I really liked the Vox ACish amps. They were a bit loud for my use, and a bit over my budget. I had some funds from other stuff I had sold, but not enough for either of those. Plus, they are so heavy
So I narrowed it down to a few choices:
- Fender Blues Jr (sounded boring and didn’t like price increase)
- Fender Super Champ XD (a little leery cause of all the hyped press, plus it had some “digital” effects…I was looking for all tube)
- Vox AC4tv (brand new, great reviews, but so new it was hard to find one to play)
- Vox Night Train (sounded awesome online, and loved the 15/7.5 watt switch…but as it was a head, I would have to also get a cab in order to use it.)
I really wanted the Night Train. It fulfills all my criteria: small, head (not have to worry about tube rattle, lighter), 7.5 watt mode, would work great for church and 15 watt for playing “out” (hope to do more of this soon), Vox chime, would be a “long term amp”, plus it’s so cool looking. BUT it was a bit out of my budget WITHOUT the cab. I couldn’t find an AC4 so I picked up a SCXD @ GC @ the old prices and that’s what I used last Sunday. It sounded great! I really am jelling with the M13 and I just feel more comfortable with what’s coming out using an amp. I doubt anyone else (besides my wife, who said she noticed the tone differnce:) even noticed or cared, (When I listen to “room recordings” of Sundays services, you can barely hear the guitar (or anything else) over the drums…but hopefully some of the changes coming in the next few weeks will help with that), but I did and I played better, so that’s all that matters, right ?
The SCXD is 15 watts and 2 channels with modeling and effects. Honestly I don’t see using Ch2 or the effects. They just aren’t my cup of tea. So I used ch. 1 (the actual tube channel). But @ 15 watts, I had to keep the volume @ around 3. It sounded much fuller around 5, but that was too loud. @ 3 you could barely hear it above the drums, but I didn’t want to add any more stage noise. I really liked it, but still wanted to try the AC4 to see…I found a place that had the new VOX AC4, so I figured I would give it a shot. It’s 4 watts, all tube and dirt cheap. It basically has no controls other than a Tone and Volume. It can switch between 4, 1 and 1/4 watts. It sounds best @ 4 so that’s what I’m gonna try @ church. But it’s cool to go down to 1/4 for playing @ home. It’s light and looks classic.
Both the AC4 and SCXD use 10″ speakers and really need an external cab to sound full. That will come later. That way I can run a cord to my office and put the speaker there.
So I’ve spent a tiny bit of time after the kids were in bed A/B’ing them and honestly I can’t decide. They both have pros/cons. I’ve still got a bit longer to decide. We’ll see what I think after a Sunday of the Vox.
But it was sooo much fun to play last Sunday. I know a lot of it was that the band/vocals were cooking, but I’m sure my tone had a lot to do with it
It was the first time I’ve actually liked what was coming out of my guitar. That’s not the priority @ all (my task to to help people worship God), but it’s a nice bonus when I like the sound of my guitar
With the M13 I used stuff I would never think of like a Seeker on “Filled with your Glory”, and I am loving the Octo setting. I will have to watch myself so I don’t use it on every song
…it’s great for us Edge wanna-bes
It provided a nice “bed” for slower songs.
So any thoughts? SCXD or AC4? Or if anyone bought the new Night Train and you hate it, I’ll take it off your hands
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